Curse

Acehole2006 · Dec 22, 2010, 03:09 PM // 15:09

I mean this is going to sound more like a cry for help but after 3 years trying for Mini Polar Bear and well over 3000 runs total, im now obviously believing (amongst others) that this just wont ever happen.

Looking at prices in town and forum for unded is like 1300e and ded 650e (approx).

QUESTION is..... Would it be better if they inscreased the chance from like 0.02ish (quoted wiki) to like 0.3?. I mean price would be effected but im sure this pet would still make like 500e unded and 150ded but would make alot more players happy.

me personally im after the mini-pet not that gold it brings in. 3 years of trying though com on.... ,well meanwhile i wont give up.

Hobbs · Dec 22, 2010, 03:11 PM // 15:11

First the Art Contest thread now this? Don't you understand some things are supposed to be rare and exclusive?

A E L · Dec 22, 2010, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Or instead of trying to get one , save up money and just buy one then be happy with it

Lanier · Dec 22, 2010, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I agree with the OP. It is fine if things are rare and exclusive but nothing should be rare and exclusive to the extent mini polar bears currently are

Chasing Squirrels · Dec 22, 2010, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Acehole2006

I mean this is going to sound more like a cry for help but after 3 years trying for Mini Polar Bear and well over 3000 runs total, im now obviously believing (amongst others) that this just wont ever happen.

Looking at prices in town and forum for unded is like 1300e and ded 650e (approx).

QUESTION is..... Would it be better if they inscreased the chance from like 0.02ish (quoted wiki) to like 0.3?. I mean price would be effected but im sure this pet would still make like 500e unded and 150ded but would make alot more players happy.

me personally im after the mini-pet not that gold it brings in. 3 years of trying though com on.... ,well meanwhile i wont give up.

With all those hours you wasted you could have farmed the 1300 ectos to buy one....

irundroks · Dec 22, 2010, 03:26 PM // 15:26

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Originally Posted by Acehole2006

me personally im after the mini-pet not that gold it brings in. 3 years of trying though com on.... ,well meanwhile i wont give up.

u got the right attitude. now go for it.

LifeInfusion · Dec 22, 2010, 03:48 PM // 15:48

After farming SD this year I am going after a Mini polar bear. Not because it's expensive, but because I collect minis and there's no other way to get it since people charge absurd amounts for them. (Come on, 1000+ ectos? That's like 2 sets of wintergreen items)

FengShuiDove · Dec 22, 2010, 03:48 PM // 15:48

I try to forget that the MPB even drops out of that chest. It helps a little.

Think of it this way: the first year the MPB came out, it wasn't even discovered until one of the later days of the entire 2 week long festival. It's pretty clear ANet wants to it be, and to remain, incredibly rare.

As for the comparison between this and the art contest thread, OP here is voicing a pretty legitimate gripe about end-chests. It's absolutely unfair that someone can do SoO 100 times and never get a BDS while someone just passing through for Master of the North title can luck out and get one. It's not skill or effort based. ANet has shown that their stance has changed on this based on the dungeon rewards system in GW2.

Spiritz · Dec 22, 2010, 03:58 PM // 15:58

Way i see it the bear is a diff case - its not a case of he/she is limited edition but the daft uber low drop.
To get one you either have to buy one or be extreme uber lucky and have one drop.
Why not make it more fair to the community and have a much higher drop chance - so what if its 2 weeks that it can be farmed but at least everyone will have a chance to get it - its not limited edition so who cares if this year 4 thousand of them were got . Think of it as a nice gift from anet rather than a high cost mini - prices drop who`d care , we get new celestial minis each year from gifts yet we have better odds at getting one.
Not all of us go by a minis value - we are not status driven / braggin rights and some may have a mini worth over 100k and not spend time thinking its worth.
i cba with the quest this year coz i know im no way going to get one drop and wasting my time trying when i could be doing other quests etc .

IlikeGW · Dec 22, 2010, 04:01 PM // 16:01

It's a 9.5 million gold drop. You're not going to get one any more than you're going to win the lottery today. Just ignore the stupid mind games like that, and go straight for the exploitable farms that actually make money. And I'm sorry you want the mini, but it will never happen. It doesn't really matter if you get one or not so why waste the time unless you don't care if you waste the time.

Acehole2006 · Dec 22, 2010, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Im actaully a very patient person and will be there to the end trying. i remember last wintersday waiting for rift warden to vanish before my eyes but trying to get every last run in.

I understand what people are saying in regards to "why not just buy 1", I could buy this mini if i saved up a bit for it. So much more i want to spend money on though like wisdom, zaishen title.
Tough then? well no....

3 classes of earner for me.... low end=never seen 100k, mid-class 100-1000k and high-class 1000k+. i consider myself mid class and feel lucky enough to be able to put my money down on this.

but for the low-class earners in the game why should they be forgotton?. Its ok for us to say "im gonna buy 1".... what about the people who cant?. they should have a chance at the drop i feel.

Veldan · Dec 22, 2010, 04:27 PM // 16:27

I feel the same way as the OP. Imo GW isn't the game for expensive uber items, go play any random MMO for that. GW is to be enjoyable for everyone, and I personally think it shouldn't be so that items currently still obtainable in-game are so ridiculously rare and expensive. It's logical that limited release mini's and max q7 items are impossible to get for the majority of the players, since those can't be dropped anymore. But items that can be dropped, should be there for all players, not for the 0,01% that's lucky or the 0,01% thats super rich.

Winry Rockbell · Dec 22, 2010, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Dyeane

For those looking to buy, this may come in handy:
http://argos.soft.free.fr/GwEstimato...rch=polar+bear

For those telling OP's to just buy the mini, i think its more fun to actually get your own drop.
Anyone can save up for Polar Bear. e.g. Mia Quickening spams WTB Mini Pet whole day n try to buy em for like 1k ea n resell to make hugh profit, ultra boring but it works. cos heaps of noobs don't know the prices on mini pets. or you can hang out at GToB n buy zkeys for 5k ea n resell for 6k ea, etc. Its not hard to make 30-40e per day if u wanna spam for hours.

HellScreamS · Dec 22, 2010, 04:55 PM // 16:55

honestly, what's this ranting all about? You need to have some issues if you don't realize that in a game where you could get a weapon and some armor with max specs on them you'd end up spending about 30.000 gold in cash [talking about fully runed and upgraded], everything that matters is prestige. Now where would all this prestige go if everybody had polar bears? There needs to be a visual line to separate the categories of players, hardcore farmers+luckers from the casual players. 'Nuff said.

FengShuiDove · Dec 22, 2010, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by HellScreamS

There needs to be a visual line to separate the categories of players, hardcore farmers+luckers from the casual players

You're partially correct. Hardcore > Lucky > Casual

Not Hardcore = Lucky >>> Casual

You're in an elite guild that does high-end stuff at the top of the game. I suppose I've never been in your shoes, but it seems like I'd prefer to be rewarded based on how much I've done and the things I've learned about the game than a random chest drop. Once.

sandor · Dec 22, 2010, 05:19 PM // 17:19

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Originally Posted by Chasing Squirrels

With all those hours you wasted you could have farmed the 1300 ectos to buy one....

True true. And I don't agree with the OP just keep it the way it is.

Haggis of Doom · Dec 22, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

You're partially correct. Hardcore > Lucky > Casual

Not Hardcore = Lucky >>> Casual

You're in an elite guild that does high-end stuff at the top of the game. I suppose I've never been in your shoes, but it seems like I'd prefer to be rewarded based on how much I've done and the things I've learned about the game than a random chest drop. Once.

You're forgetting something here.

The lucky player who gets 1 mini polar bear drop once and who is otherwise fairly casual will:

1. sell it and be no more visually prestigious than the 1000s of mindless permasins out there with 1000 ectos who can't even tell -2/stance is better than -5/20%. And then, guess what? The prestige goes to the guy who bought it and who is likely a hardcore farmer of some sort.

2. keep it and not feel that prestigious, merely lucky. People in town seeing it will ohhh and ahhh at his/her luckiness. As a casual player, he/she will enjoy the attention for a little while but ultimately won't care. Someone who doesn't care about prestige is hence, not rewarded with it since prestige is an opinion that requires the recipient to acknowledge it.

You are rewarded for being a competent player. You don't fail missions like some. You mod your heroes appropriately. Vanity and competence don't always go hand-in-hand in the world. Just look around and you'll see :P

As for the luck factor in GW, I'd say keep it. If reward is always directly proportional to effort, it would feel like work. Some randomness helps keep the excitement (okay, probably not if you've opened the damn chest 2000 times, but it's exciting for someone opening it for the 1st/2nd time).

Acehole2006 · Dec 22, 2010, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Its great to see all the feedback even from people who disagree and show valid points also. That is what this post intended to do, set out to find what people think.

This mini is High-end for sure and has been made such. But again in my opinion it has been made 2 high. im not saying make it as common as lunar fortune rewards such as cestial ox/rat etc, but just to make it more common that a grain of sand in the crystal desert.

SpyderArachnid · Dec 22, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53

It's a vanity item. If you want it, work for it.

Now if it was an item that actually meant something (armor/weapon) that was better than anything out there (stat wise), then yes, feel free to complain.

But seeing as it is just a vanity item, the drop rate on it is just fine. Vanity is something you have to work for. Anet has made all the items you will ever NEED (armor/weapon), easy to get. If you want something purely for vanity sakes, you have to work harder for it.

Acehole2006 · Dec 22, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

It's a vanity item. If you want it, work for it.

Now if it was an item that actually meant something (armor/weapon) that was better than anything out there (stat wise), then yes, feel free to complain.

But seeing as it is just a vanity item, the drop rate on it is just fine. Vanity is something you have to work for. Anet has made all the items you will ever NEED (armor/weapon), easy to get. If you want something purely for vanity sakes, you have to work harder for it.

Agree with what your saying, but im running 2 accounts all event long last 3 years and no luck lol. I would still feel the same if it dropped for me.